Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

04/23/2024 10:15 AM House ENERGY

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 349 RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECT LEASES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ HB 328 COMMUNITY ENERGY FACILITIES; NET METERING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ SB 152 COMMUNITY ENERGY FACILITIES; NET METERING TELECONFERENCED
<Pending Referral>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
        HB 328-COMMUNITY ENERGY FACILITIES; NET METERING                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:18:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  328  "An Act  relating  to community  energy                                                               
facilities."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:19:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAVID GOFF, Staff, Representative  Mike Tomaszewski, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  On  behalf  of  Representative  Tomaszewski,  prime                                                               
sponsor, Introduced and gave a Presentation on HB 328.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:19:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF  began the sponsor  statement on  HB 328, which  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                       Sponsor Statement                                                                                        
                House Bill 328: Community Energy                                                                                
This   bill   will   increase  options   for   renewable   energy                                                               
development,  allow Alaskan  ratepayers to  lower their  electric                                                               
costs, and  offset natural  gas usage  by establishing  a virtual                                                               
net   metering  program   for   small   scale  renewable   energy                                                               
generation.  Currently,  ratepayers  for  economically  regulated                                                               
utilities can  utilize net metering, which  lowers their electric                                                               
bills  based on  the  amount of  electricity  they generate  from                                                               
generators  like solar  panels or  wind turbines.  Unfortunately,                                                               
many ratepayers including  renters and condo owners  are not able                                                               
to take advantage of net metering  because they do not have space                                                               
available on-site. HB 328 will  allow multiple ratepayers to pool                                                               
their resources  to receive net  metering benefits from  a single                                                               
project.  HB  328  will  allow  power  generated  from  a  single                                                               
centralized  and   efficient  renewable   energy  source   to  be                                                               
purchased through a subscription  for multiple utility customers.                                                               
This  subscription allows  homeowners and  tenants who  might not                                                               
have access  to consistent solar  or renewable energy  sources to                                                               
reap  the  benefits  of  cost  savings,  reliability,  and  other                                                               
benefits to the community. Twenty  states have established formal                                                               
community energy programs, with several  more that operate at the                                                               
utility regulation level.  This new effort could  generate 7.3 GW                                                               
of new solar  capacity nationwide by 2030.  Utility customers who                                                               
subscribe to community energy projects  save between 5 and 15% on                                                               
their utility bill through monthly  credits. Creating a community                                                               
energy  program  in  Alaska  will  allow  the  state  to  capture                                                               
millions  of  dollars  in investment  for  new  renewable  energy                                                               
projects. It  will lead  to hundreds  of new  jobs in  the energy                                                               
industry. The announcement  of $7 Billion in  federal funding for                                                               
residential  and  community  solar  projects will  help  pay  for                                                               
community   energy  projects.   Several   private  investors   in                                                               
community  solar projects  have  already reached  out to  express                                                               
interest. Through this  bill, an 8 percent  increase in renewable                                                               
energy on  the Railbelt could  help offset natural gas  usage and                                                               
address the supply  issues for Cook Inlet natural  gas. This bill                                                               
will only apply  to utilities that are  economically regulated by                                                               
the Regulatory Commission of Alaska,  who will be responsible for                                                               
reviewing  and approving  utilities'  community energy  programs.                                                               
The  RCA  will  have  the   authority  to  modify  or  waive  the                                                               
requirements  of  this  bill  to   meet  the  needs  of  specific                                                               
utilities.  SB  152  will  help  utility  customers  save  money,                                                               
attract millions in  investment, and help offset  natural gas use                                                               
in Cook Inlet while creating good jobs for Alaskans.                                                                            
                   Staff Contact: David Goff                                                                                    
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10:23:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER  asked if there  was a sectional  analysis related                                                               
to HB 328.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:23:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF  began the sectional analysis  on HB 328, which  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                             HB 328                                                                                             
                  Community Energy Facilities                                                                                   
                       Sectional Analysis                                                                                       
Section  1  adds new  statutory  sections  relating to  community                                                               
energy facilities:                                                                                                              
AS 42.05.725 is a conforming section for applicability.                                                                         
AS  42.05.727 requires  utilities  to submit  a community  energy                                                               
plan to the  Regulatory Commission of Alaska for  approval and to                                                               
make their  community energy program available  to all subscriber                                                               
organizations   that  request   interconnection   subject  to   a                                                               
50megawatt limit.                                                                                                               
AS  42.05.729 establishes  bill procedures  for community  energy                                                               
subscribers.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Subsection  (a)  allows utilities  to  bill  subscribers for  all                                                               
charges authorized by the utility's tariff.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Subsection  (b)  prohibits  utilities from  charging  subscribers                                                               
additional fees without approval from the commission.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Subsection  (c) allows  utilities to  petition the  commission to                                                               
change their rates designs for community energy subscribers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Subsection  (d)  allows  electrical  cooperatives  to  invest  in                                                               
renewable  energy projects,  with  the approval  of their  member                                                               
owners.                                                                                                                         
AS  42.05.731  establishes the  authority  of  the commission  to                                                               
modify  this   program  and  adopt  additional   requirements  by                                                               
regulation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Subsection  (a) allows  the  commission to  waive  or modify  the                                                               
requirements of this bill.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Subsection  (b)  allows  the   commission  to  adopt  regulations                                                               
governing  safety, power  quality, and  interconnection standards                                                               
for community energy projects.                                                                                                  
AS   42.05.733  establishes   community  energy   facilities  and                                                               
outlines the parameters for how these facilities can operate.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Subsection (a) sets  criteria for who may own  a community energy                                                               
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Subsection(b)   sets  procedures   for   enrolling  and   billing                                                               
subscribers.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Subsection  (c) sets  criteria for  what  must be  included in  a                                                               
utilities community energy plan.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Subsection (d)  requires the commission to  ensure that community                                                               
energy  plans  that  are  targeted to  low-  to  moderate  income                                                               
households are crafted to achieve tangible cost savings.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Subsection  (e)  provides  that   a  subscriber  or  subscription                                                               
organization is not considered an electric utility.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Subsection   (f)  establishes   criteria  for   community  energy                                                               
facilities to be eligible.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Subsection   (g)   establishes    requirements   for   subscriber                                                               
organizations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Subsection (h) defines "low-to moderate-income" household.                                                                      
AS 42.05.735 provides definitions of terms used in the bill.                                                                    
Section 2 requires the commission  to adopt regulations necessary                                                               
to implement this bill within one year of its effective date.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:26:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR  GOFF moved  to  the  associated presentation  on  HB 328.  He                                                               
defined  what  community  energy  is and  explained  that  it  is                                                               
popular and  the fastest growing  sector in the  renewable energy                                                               
sector. He explained how the  current net metering program works,                                                               
and how HB 328 would target users without net metering access.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:28:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER asked  for the source of the claims  made on slide                                                               
4 and asked for a qualification of the numbers on the slide.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:29:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF responded that his  assumption is correct and added that                                                               
each  utility  is  only  allowed  50  Megawatts  of  energy  from                                                               
community solar.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER asked if Alaska  has an expectation of the numbers                                                               
used in the formula.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF  said he  doesn't think  there is  a number  secured yet                                                               
because the  bill sponsor is  waiting for utilities  companies to                                                               
figure  out their  expectations/limits  in  regards to  community                                                               
energy.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:30:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF resumed  his presentation on slide 6,  and quickly moved                                                               
to slide  7 to explain  how HB 328  would expand options  for net                                                               
metering. He  explained how the  Regulatory Commission  of Alaska                                                               
would have oversight of a  community energy program and said that                                                               
the RCA  may waive any requirement  or law established by  HB 328                                                               
in order to  regulate community energy. He  explained the process                                                               
in order  of start to  finish of establishing a  community energy                                                               
project and explained the benefits of community energy.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:33:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER asked Mr. Goff to explain each part of slide 10.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GOFF,  in  response  to   Chair  Rauscher,  broke  down  and                                                               
explained net metering and how  it is performed from ratepayer to                                                               
utility company. He  continued his answer by  running through the                                                               
slide.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:35:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF continued  his presentation on the latter  half of slide                                                               
10, which detailed the benefits of using community energy.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:37:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT asked  if  there is  a continuous  benefit                                                               
with a proposed tax credit or if it is a one-time benefit.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GOFF  answered  that  it  is  a  one-time  credit,  and  the                                                               
percentage of the cost credited varies year by year.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:38:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ARMSTRONG  asked   if  a  new  125-million-dollar                                                               
Federal  grant has  been taken  into account  with regards  to HB
349.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF said he himself has not yet considered that grant.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:38:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF continued  his presentation on slide  11, which detailed                                                               
how HB 328  and community energy projects can  lower energy bills                                                               
in Alaska.  He explained  how HB  328 would  create more  jobs in                                                               
investment, and that  renewable energy sector has  more jobs than                                                               
fossil fuels.  He said  it would offset  natural gas  and improve                                                               
grid  resiliency   and  reliability  by  creating   a  system  of                                                               
redundancies.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:42:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAUSCHER  asked if  the  presentation  would be  added  to                                                               
BASIS.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:42:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked if the  regulations would  dictate how                                                               
the  utilities would  pay their  avoided  cost or  would that  be                                                               
negotiated for each project.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:43:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF  answered that if someone  is using the energy  in a net                                                               
metering scenario, the person is  credited the price per Kilowatt                                                               
(Kw) because  they are  not using  the energy  to begin  with. He                                                               
added that whatever  excess energy they would  produce would come                                                               
at a much lower cost at the end of the month.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:44:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  asked if  Mr.  Goff  has checked  with  the                                                               
utilities about his previous answer.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF  responded that he  currently has  a solar array  at his                                                               
house, so that is how he knows.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  said  that  on a  large  scale,  renewables                                                               
aren't  reliable and  expressed a  concern that  using renewables                                                               
could increase costs to ratepayers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOFF  said that HB  328 limits  the amount that  each utility                                                               
company  would be  able to  go into  a certain  sector of  energy                                                               
generation, so  there would still  be redundancies in  the energy                                                               
grid.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:48:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER opened public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:49:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  JONES, representing  self,  Testified in  opposition to  HB
328. He  said that this bill  would penalize people who  use more                                                               
traditional  utilities  options,  criticized the  reliability  of                                                               
renewable energy,  and said that  the net metering clause  of the                                                               
bill  is  flawed.  He  gave  a  series  of  perceived  flaws  and                                                               
encouraged committee members to vote no on HB 328.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:51:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DYANI CHAPMAN,  State Director, Alaska Environment,  Testified in                                                               
support of  HB 328.  She said this  bill would  allow individuals                                                               
who  can't afford  energy on  their  own to  obtain reliable  and                                                               
affordable energy.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:52:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:53:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:53 a.m. to 10:56 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:56:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER announced that HB 328 was held over.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB328 sponser statement.pdf HENE 4/23/2024 10:15:00 AM
HB 328
HB0328A.pdf HENE 4/23/2024 10:15:00 AM
HB 328
HB 328 Sectional Analysis.pdf HENE 4/23/2024 10:15:00 AM
HB 328
CSHB 349(RES) 33-LS1325R.pdf HENE 4/23/2024 10:15:00 AM
HB 349
HB349.HRES CS Version R Sectional Analysis.pdf HENE 4/23/2024 10:15:00 AM
HB 349
HB349.Sponsor Statement.pdf HENE 4/23/2024 10:15:00 AM
HB 349
CSHB349.HRES.D.sectional.history.pdf HENE 4/23/2024 10:15:00 AM
HB 349
HB 328 Pre4sentation.pdf HENE 4/23/2024 10:15:00 AM
HB 328